Thursday, September 21, 2017

The bones of Icarus

Some of the other parts have started arriving over the last couple of days.  The RamFlo air filters came from the UK, shocks came from Ohio.  I found a killer place for the shocks - they're typically around $90 each.  I got these for $65 each.

The industrial tins came in today as did the adapter for the fuel line (8mm to 5mm) for the front end.  I think all that's left now is fuel hose and some clamps.  When the pan is restored - I'll swap the internal line from 5mm to 8mm and then eliminate the adapter.
 I pulled out the spare door that was on Icarus (the 65 I bought out of New York several years ago) and cleaned it up because my kid was stir crazy (home sick with strep) and he needed something to do.  He's starting to like working on the car so I'll take advantage of it whenever possible.  The inside of the door, the hinges and the frame are in good shape - the outer skin, however, is dented in a few places.
The window regulator bolt holes are a little rough on the bottom end...which is odd because the windows on Icarus seemed to work just fine.

I just bought a ton of NOS parts - they'll show up at the end of next week - hopefully right around the same time the engine/trans should show up.

Wednesday, September 13, 2017

Engine's ready, NOS hatch seals, NOS mirror, industrial tins

 Good news is that the engine is done and has been through dyno.  It's made 110hp with 126 lb/ft of torque.  I'm pretty happy with those numbers - I was expecting more around the 90hp figure - so I'm getting what amounts to a 20% increase vs. what I expected.  Here's a video

The engine will be crated in a couple of days and the transmission will be ready about a day later.  It'll all ship out early next week and hopefully arrive the following week - perfect timing!

I swiped the correctly colored wires from a broken contact plate and plan to install them on the 4 way switch wiring at some point soon...I'll get the relays mounted and adjust the wiring from there to keep it as clean as possible.  The fancy wire crimper I bought is pretty nice to work with - much better than the one I bought years ago.  All that's left is to figure out how to mount up the relays under the dash without it being more of a rat's nest than what VW created by stuffing all of this under the tiny dash.
 After doing a bit of reading, I decided to buy (not make) some industrial shields since I'm running J-tubes vs. heater boxes.  The point of them is to direct the exhaust heat away from the heads and box in the air flow to keep it moving rearward.  They should arrive around the same time as the engine so, again, the timing is good.  These may stick around for good or they may get replaced with something 'improved' because I can already see an opportunity to improve them by extending them under the cylinder head a bit and tapping the two bumps on the bottom of the head then securing the outer edge of the tin to the head.  Who knows though, maybe they won't rattle as they are...
 Scored two NOS rear hatch seals from Spain.  One has a minor tear in it that I can glue up.  The other one is going to go to a friend.  I'll have to keep my eyes peeled to find a perfect one - the repops are worthless.  I've got three NOS front seals and they're still being made by VEWIB - not sure why they don't make the rear hatch seals.  I've tried looking for the profile from the various Chinese suppliers but have come back with nothing.  It can't be that unique that this was the only car, can it?
 The left side mirror showed up...or rather I chased it down at a post office after two hours of driving all over the place to find it between three post offices.  After telling the manager of the last post office to scan it that I wasn't leaving until he produced the box (and waiting another 20 minutes), the box was handed to me.  The postal service in Georgia has been pretty fucking awful overall so I guess I'm not at all surprised this happened.
The mirror, overall, is pretty nice but it's not perfect (as advertised).  The glass is 'pushed in' so there's a lip of metal around the edge and that edge now has styrofoam shit stuck to it because of the packing job.  I'll hang on to it with the hope that I can either get the glass fixed or find a better one in the future.  All it takes is patience.

There are other parts inbound - I've sold off a lot of miscellaneous parts lately and that's freed up both space and funds - I'm focused on my car and the parts it will need to be properly restored.  Makes things a lot easier to track now that they're primarily in an inventory listing.

My overall goal with the car is to have it look as stock as possible with modern touches - bigger engine with more modern parts, upgraded braking system and better seat belts for safety and leave the rest of the car as close to stock as absolutely possible.

Thursday, September 7, 2017

Note what is in this place when you're caught up in this chase

I snapped a photo of the misalignment on the cover when the spring plate is in place.  I've conceded that I will have to remove this spring plate - mount the subframe in the car, level the car, measure the proper angle for the spring plate and reinstall.  Given that I'm in the midst of a certification preparation - this is going to sit for a few weeks.
Since I know I'm highly unlikely to use the original distributor again, I decided to sell my last NOS ZV/JCU 4R3 distributor and spares.  I posted it up on Facebook groups and  To my surprise, it sold about 3 hours later to a guy who owns some very nice cars - I'm happy that it's going to a great home.  Selling this distributor pays for the carpet kit that I have on order.

Yeah, the rubber mat that came in my car originally is drying out and cracking/falling apart.  It's only a matter of time before there's nothing left of the rubber mat, unfortunately.  I do appreciate that it'll be a bit quieter in the car with the carpet and the sound deadening that I recently bought.  There's a very slow crawl to a complete car - one or two parts at a time.

I've been on the fence about selling my bumper guards with the rubber ends that I bought a few months ago.  I've seen them on a few different cars now and I don't think I'm going to use them and I'm in a 'slim down' mode so it kind of makes sense to sell them.

I also found another source for the Boge steering dampers so I bought two more.

The driver's side mirror that I bought was shipped to the wrong address - the seller responded today telling me that they are shipping a replacement.  Sucks that it got lost but maybe they'll get lucky and it'll get returned to them once the recipient realizes it's not addressed to them.

Tuesday, September 5, 2017

Rear subframe assembly failure

At some point today, I decided to tackle installing the spring plates on the subframe.  I cleaned the wax off of the bushings, added some talc and went about installing the first one.

A bit of trial and error ensued as I aligned both spring plates to the same angle but I eventually got it right.
Then came the time to install the cover and this is where the wheels came off the wagon, so to speak.  The covers don't align with the bolt holes.  As in 'none' of them align with an open bolt hole.  I wrapped a ratchet strap around the torsion tube and attempted to 'lift' it enough to align the holes - finding nothing but failure.  To my credit (or ignorance), I've never replaced these bushings on a subframe that's not mounted to the car.  I'm starting to think that I will have to mount this to the body and have another 'go'.  If that doesn't work - I may have to wait until the engine and transmission arrive so I can install those, then install the spring plates.  I was hoping to be able to assemble the whole thing outside of the car and then roll it back under the body as one unit but that might not be possible.  I'm not really crunched for time but my patience are wearing a bit thin because I have yet to complete this task and I've, so far, found about five ways to NOT get this done.  Giving in and installing it back in the car might be failure number 6 or it might be the win I've been searching for all along.  At this point, it certainly can't hurt to try...

I did, however, have one almost win today:  The 4 way flashers work!  The only residual problem with them is that the flasher relay clicks when nothing is happening.  I am going to try a different flasher and see if I got a bad one or if there's some wiring issue I need to chase down.  I also need to clean up the wiring a bit now that I've got the route figured out.

NOS right hand mirror from France

Super nice mirror I bought from a seller in France.  It's the larger head and has the longer arm - two main benefits: I can actually see things in the mirror!

It's in amazing shape and I'm happy I snagged it!

Monday, September 4, 2017

1904 engine pics

Received a couple of pictures of the engine during the build process.  It should be going to dyno in about a week and then ship out a week or two after that point.  The timing is perfect because I should be done with my certification process by then.

Fall is going to be a great season!

Friday, August 18, 2017

Gossen, Gossen, Gossen!

The tachs have come back...this is the used tach with repainted inner ring and new chrome trim ring.  It looks super nice now - slightly more grey in appearance and probably matches the VW gauges better.  I've got one interested party - if he bails, I'll likely just keep it.  I've got a lot of money into it and it's doubtful that anyone will pay what it would take to recover that money.
The rebuilt/used tach on the left, the NOS/rebuilt tach on the right.  There are slight differences in them - most notably - the color.  As it turns out, the color of the trim ring very highly influences the color of the tach face.  They both look super super nice and I'm happy to have them back home now that they're rebuilt and ready to use.

Thursday, August 17, 2017

BOGE damper, wiring and dead battery

Only a little work on the car today - I had about two hours on my hands - so I made some patch wires and attempted to test my emergency flashers.  Got it all put together and installed and realized late in the game that the battery for the car is probably dead.  I'll have to test it tomorrow to confirm.  Tried to bypass the switch and the relay didn't click.  The headlights didn't come on when I pulled the switch - only the fuel gauge worked.  I'll try a few new things tomorrow.

Received a NOS BOGE steering damper today - bought it off a guy from The Samba.  It looks almost perfect and it's in functionally superior condition to the new Chinese ones that I bought after the Cofap versions vanished from the market.  The Chinese copies have about 1/2" of play between fully closed and the beginning of extension - this translates into 'play' in the overall feel of the driving dynamics.

I may have to find another one as a spare.

I didn't do anything with the rear subframe yet - so that's still sitting and waiting for me to get cracking on it.

Tuesday, August 15, 2017

Alligator clips

Well, today was slightly productive as I was able to get a few accomplishments under my belt.

Task #1 was to run a new wire for the tach installation from the dash to the engine area.  While I was at it, I also replaced the grommet at the rear of the pan where the battery to starter cable is located - there wasn't much left of it.  I did a little clean up of the undercoating but it's a tiresome and dirty job and I wasn't really having it today.

Task #2 was swapping everything over to a 12 pole fuse box which was relatively simple.  I didn't realize until today that the last two sections swap places when converting from the 10 pole to the 12 pole.  I'm pretty sure I got it all correct but I guess I'll find out when I go to start the car, huh?

Task #3 was installing the relays for 4 way flashers.  This job wasn't finished because I ran out of time.  I have the wire ready for the 2nd relay and think I understand the DPDT relay well enough to do the job but I'm not entirely convinced that I won't screw it up.

Tomorrow is a 'non-VW' day - I've got a bunch of other things to get done and I probably won't have time to work on the car at all.  I might look into tackling the rear subframe torsion bar/spring plate install if I'm feeling really crafty.

Monday, August 14, 2017

The middle of the riddle

 I received an email mid-morning telling me that the powder coat job was complete.  I ran a couple of errands and headed up to the shop (it's 35 minutes away). Chatted with the owner for a few minutes, paid and put the parts in the car.

In spite of the communication issues and slightly longer than communicated turn around - the parts look good.  And the price was reasonable.
 Put the subframe outside and blew out the extra sand that was inside.  I'm sure there's a little left inside but most of it is now out.

I'd really like to find a nice one for the restoration process later down the road but I'll cross that bridge later.  For now, I'm focused on getting the torsion bars and spring plates back on this thing in preparation for the engine and transmission.
 Dropped the starter off at a local shop - it took them 20 minutes to get to it and install the pinion gear.  Well worth what it cost to have them do it because it's one less thing to get done.  I was able to drop it off and swing back an hour later and pick it up while I was out doing other things.
On the way home, I stopped and picked up a couple of flasher relays and some wire from the FLAPS.  The relays are for the 4 way flasher project and the wire is for the tach install.

Tomorrow, I'm hoping to have some time to continue cleaning the underside of the car - more preparation work for the engine/trans install.

Friday, August 11, 2017

Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable

Got a call from Palo Alto Speedometer today - both tachs are finished and will ship out to me on Monday.  I was informed that the new circuit boards will require that the tach is wired like the VDO - meaning that the signal comes from the tach, the power will be switched with the key and there's a ground.  The semi-annoying thing about this is that I recently removed the wire from the engine compartment to the dash when I pulled the engine because it wasn't going to be used with the Gossen tach.  Now I have the task of getting new wire and installing the wire yet again - although it should be much easier with both the engine and transmission out of the car.

And while I'm on the topic of electrical items - I'm still thinking about tackling 4 way flashers and changing the fuse box to a 12 slot from the earlier 10 slot version.

The powdercoat work should be concluded next week - meaning that I could be assembling the rear subframe soon-ish.  That would be a nice thing to check off the list.

I pulled out one of the Type 3 Parts Books that I bought a while back - it's very worn but appears to be one of the more complete books in my collection.  I'm hoping to get two very complete parts books out of the four that I have and sell off the incomplete books to others who may need them.

A local Type 3 owner contacted me today about buying some parts for a car he recently bought.  It may be time to let go of some of this stuff - get focused on the parts I need and sell off the rest of the parts.  There was some thrill in finding all of the parts but it seems to be time to let some of them go, especially if I'm going to be getting ready to move out of state again.

Now all I have to do is figure out how to swap the solenoid gears on the starter...I can't get the damn clip off of the starter!

One thing at a time.

Thursday, August 10, 2017

Stumbling along, keeping pace

It's been a few weeks since I dropped off the suspension parts for powder I called to check up on the status of things.  The recording said that emailing them was faster - so I sent an email.  I received a reply a couple of hours later telling me that they hadn't even started the job.  No apology for the delay - just a reply telling me that they could have it done early next week.  I guess time will tell if that's true.

I called and chatted with Chico about the progress of the engine build - sounds like things are going pretty well - engine shipment will be near the end of the month which is kind of perfect timing for my situation.

I may start the process of a 4 way flasher installation to fill in the time while I wait for the engine and transmission to be shipped.  If the rear subframe is finished next week - I can work on getting that all put together and prepared for the transmission and engine.

The tachometers are near completion as well - they should ship out early next week.  I'm in the final stages of making a deal to sell one of them after the work is completed because I don't need two tachometers.  In the coming weeks, I will be reevaluating the parts inventory and selling off additional parts.

More to come...

Friday, August 4, 2017

The best things happen when you're least prepared for them...

The family is on vacation but I've heard some good news:  The engine and transmission are progressing quite nicely.  I was hoping to have time to swing by the shop and check out the engine but the schedule just doesn't seem to allow it.  I'll also be going into full blown work mode right after the vacation so it might be a bit before I can get back to working on the car again.

I sent both tachometers to Palo Alto Speedometer before the vacation began - they called to tell me that both tachs were internally failing.  I authorized the rebuild of both with new circuit boards, and potentially, new trim rings - I'm waiting to hear back about the status of the rebuilds.  The timing for installation would be great if they're back in the next couple of weeks.

I'm looking forward to some down time to work on the engine/transmission installation and maybe drive the car again...seems like I've been saying something like this all year.

Sunday, July 23, 2017

Inches of progress

Found myself with a little time so I swapped out the torn up rotors.  Fairly straightforward process and very simple to do.

One less thing on the list to do before I can put things back together.

I'd like to get the body out into the driveway so I can use the power washer underneath and give it a good cleaning...maybe paint a few areas where there's rust starting on the surface.  I'm not sure I'm going to have time though...we may be moving again soon and the car has to be mobile - this determines how long I can take to clean up and repair before paint.
Just about finished organizing and cleaning up - all of the parts I'm going to need are collected and organized by where they go on the I simply have to wait for the powder coated parts to return - then I can put the suspension bits back together.

Saturday, July 22, 2017

Clean up, pick up, put away...

I spent about an hour this morning organizing and cleaning up the remainder of the parts to make sure I have the parts I'm expecting to need for the assembly process.  I did a quick inventory of the parts that need to be ordered and put them on order - fulcrum plates, rubber bits, and a spare set of inner spacers (as insurance).

Things left to address: install the second air port for the carburetors (air intake), clean the engine bay, source a thermocouple plate and remote oil cooler, clean up the hardware that will be reused, etc.

As the days tick away, I'm getting more comfortable with the work that is ahead to put the car back together.  That first drive with a new engine and transmission is going to hopefully be pretty awesome.  Some days, it seems like I've got tons of time and others it feels like I'm not going to have enough time.

Friday, July 21, 2017

One more shot...

I made a break for it in the middle of the day yesterday - drove up to the powder coating shop and dropped off the axle tubes, subframe, spring plates, bump stop brackets, reinforcement plate and trans mount...should all be ready in a couple of weeks.  After that, I stopped by a semi-local speedometer repair shop and the owner tested both of my Gossen tachs.  One appears to work - the other one does not.  He suggested that I send them to Palo Alto Speedometer for repair.  I called them when I got home and they were familiar with the name but not the specific tach.  They were willing to bench test them for me and suggest a cost to repair them if they did not work.  I sent them off today - hoping this isn't the box that the USPS decides to lose.  They're insured but the process of finding one again would be a real bitch.  I'll probably hear about them sometime next week at the earliest.

The annual family vacation is coming up at the end of next week - powder coated parts will be ready, tachs will be ready and the engine is about 3 weeks away from showing up.  I called Chico and he told me about the progress of the engine build and we confirmed some other changes I requested.  He said that he's about a week behind what he originally quoted and that time isn't likely to slip much more.  It's nice to know that in about a month - I'll have all of the parts here to put it back together.  I'll just have to find the time.  Work is consuming a lot of my time right now...

Sunday, July 9, 2017

maybe sailing, maybe drifting...

A local Type 3 guy, Pete, came by yesterday so we could finally meet in person and he could have a look around to see if anything was of interest to him.

Fortunately for me, he was interested in the transmission - so after a couple hours of talking about various experiences, we set about taking the axles and nose cone off.  The end gears and fulcrum plates look okay and I kept the nosecone just in case the rebuilt trans doesn't come with one.  Pete is a cool dude with lots of great stories, lots of experience and what sounds like a pretty cool parts collection.  I'm hoping to get this car back on tires so I can get together with Pete and Chadd to go for a little cruise in the Type 3s.

I'm still on the fence about whether or not I'll take the axle tubes apart - I may defer to the powder coat shop to tell me what they can do with them being together - if they cannot properly prep/coat them assembled, they'll get pulled apart.  I should be able to find out some time this week.

It still feels like progress and that's motivating...

Friday, July 7, 2017

New parts are always exciting!

The replacement parts have started trickling in, one package at a time...

First to arrive are the new rear spring plate hardware pieces.
I've also ordered new hardware for the transmission mount at the rear and will potentially order up new shock bolts as well.
 Replacement rotors for the rear disc brakes - bought them on sale for what I thought was a decent price.  I've got tons of time to rebuild the hubs so I figured it'd be nice to have non-fucked up rotors.  I'll either keep the jacked up pair and have them surfaced or sell them to someone else who might want them.
 VEWIB axle boot seals for the new transmission/axles.  I got the split boots because I don't think I'm going to pull the axle tubes completely apart this go around.
Also got these rear wheel bearings with a split clip around the outer edge.  Not sure what that's about but I'm pretty sure I'm going to send them back.  I've already ordered replacements from another source.

Tomorrow is the day I pull the axles apart on the original transmission...which I'm hoping to trade for a rear subframe (if it's better than mine).  Once that's all worked out and I receive the reinforcement plate - it all goes off for powder coat.

Tuesday, July 4, 2017

Even the inchworm makes progress

I had a couple of pockets of time today - I spent the majority of the largest pocket cleaning up the workbench and putting tools away.

I did have another look at the reinforcement plate - with the romantic notion that I might heat this thing up and straighten it out so it could be used again...but then I flipped it on the edge and the reality of the situation became apparent.
 I neither have the skills nor the ability to straighten this thing out - and the time I would spend doing it would not be 'time well spent'.  So I reached out to a few people and I think I've found a suitable replacement.  Fortunately, time is still on my side as far as preparation is concerned.

The plan is to get a replacement and tweak the floor mounts into shape for now so that I can get it all back together and drive it for the late Summer/Fall.  Truth be told - I haven't missed many driving opportunities lately because it's rained so much here over the last several weeks.
Another thing I did today was remove the rear transmission mount - one of the washers was in three pieces and the bolts have definitely seen better days.

I have a new Brazilian manufactured rear mount that I'll add to the powder coat pile for this rebuild.

Slowly but surely, I'm getting ready to drop parts off for powder coating.

Saturday, July 1, 2017

"If we wait until we’re ready, we’ll be waiting for the rest of our lives."

The 1500 S engine, after some delays on the carrier's part, departed on Thursday for California.  I've sold off a few other early engine parts along the way...I'm in the 'dragging my feet' portion of removing the rear subframe but I need to get on it very soon if I'm going to meet the time line of having it powder coated and assembled before the replacement transmission and engine arrive.

I did manage to get a little progress today, however, so things are still technically moving forward.

 The center support plate was the hardest part to remove.  Two of the bolts were wedged into place by bent metal.  I had to dig out the hammer and chisel to bend metal back to get at the bolts.

The last one caused more trouble because the square weld nut inside broke free.  The floors are in much worse condition than I initially thought.  The whole rear section starting about halfway under the front seats to the rear where the battery sits is rusted through and there's not much holding it all together.  I'm kind of surprised I haven't put my foot through the floor.
 This piece is destined for the scrap bin.  There's no saving it.  The trouble is that I don't think a straight one will bolt up to the existing floor pans...which means that I could do the floor pans.

On one hand: restoring the pan wouldn't be that big of a job but it would be time-consuming (time is a commodity that I'm currently short on due to my workload).  It'd be hard to restore the pan and not slip into a full blown restoration - which would defeat the purpose of trying to get the car running/driving and enjoy it for a while before starting the restoration.

On the other hand: I probably should find a stopping point and just drive the car for a while.  That's hard to do knowing that I could just pull it apart and get the restoration going...start using the parts I've been collecting for years.  I'd really like to pull the pan and get that fixed up but it's such a slippery slope...might be a 'game day' decision.

At minimum, the rear subframe will be completely restored.  I guess I should be okay with that and move forward but I can't help but realize that I'll wind up doing this all twice (now and later).

Evening edit:  I was able to get quite a bit done today - these cars come apart rather fast- it's getting them back together that's hard.
 I put the tires on the rear end and removed the bolts.  I used one of my little dirty carts to hold the front end so that when it came down it wouldn't hit the concrete.  It worked out pretty well.  Once I got it out from underneath the car, I removed the rear brakes, then the transmission, then the spring plates and torsion bars.
 I'm fairly certain that this is either the original gasket or it's a cheap repop - it's borderline crunchy/soft.
 Typical VW transmission - completely caked with oily dirt.  I did the boot seals right after buying the car and they seem to have held up rather nicely.  I've got a new German set on the way and they should arrive before I need to put the new transmission back together (install the axles).
Found an original shift coupler cage - super nice condition...
 I can't tell if this rubber for the shift coupler is new or was taken from a new one and placed into the OE cage - the clip style clamp was a nice sight though.  The hockey stick bolt was safety wired - so someone has been in here recently.
 The rear subframe almost stripped down to its core.  I have to figure out how to get the trans cradle loose.  I got in touch with a local Type 3 guy and he might bring another subframe over - if it's nicer than mine, I'll buy it and have it powder coated.  If not, I guess I'll work with what I've got.
 It still somewhat amazes me at how fast these cars come apart...

I also bought new rotors for the rear from CIP1 while they had the CSP rotors on sale with free shipping.  I'll see those in a couple of weeks - I'm in no hurry since this won't go back together for about a month.
 The only thing I didn't get off yet is the spacers for the rear brakes but I figure they'll come off when I pull the axles.
I noticed these three holes on the side of the transmission when I was putting it on the cart - pretty sure you can see right inside.  Not sure why there are three holes here but I'm thinking they should have plugs and not be open to the world.

The fluid that came out of the transmission was fairly clean and amounted to about 2 quarts.

The hockey stick is a redrilled Type 1 so someone has at least had the nosecone off of this transmission at some point.  Both the front and rear mounts are new Wolfsburg West manufacture and are in near new condition.

Thursday, June 22, 2017

Stop looking for happiness in the same place you lost it

On Monday, I ordered up the new engine and transmission.

Basic specs:
* 1904, full flow, external oil filter (I'll add a remote cooler as well)
* Spanish or Italian Weber 40 IDF carbs
* LeenAPK programmable distributor
* Vintage Speed carb linkage
* Vintage Speed exhaust
* ProStreet Freeway Flyer transmission (taller 4th gear)

The estimate for delivery is mid to late August.

On Tuesday, I collected a handful of contacts for media blasting and powder coating.  The subframe, axle tubes, spring plates, and various other small parts will be cleaned and powder coated for both the engine build and the suspension rebuild.

I'll be shedding stock parts as this build progresses forward as there's little chance I'll go back to stock at this point.  I'm looking to build a super reliable daily driver that looks stock but has upgraded brakes, engine and transmission.

The engine crate of parts will be departing tomorrow for California.  One chapter closes to greet the following events...

Sunday, June 18, 2017


 The day started with me pulling out a bunch of wood I brought to Atlanta from Chicago - old shelf wood - and determining the size of the crate.  After a bit of back and forth, I settled on roughly 36"x36"x24" and started squaring up the pieces because they were not straight.  Made a trip to Home Depot for additional wood and screws and came back and got into it.
This photo is why my blog is so boring - I went from nearly nothing to completely packed without taking a single photo.  Somewhere in this crate is the engine - strapped and bolted to the crate, the complete exhaust, engine tins and about ten boxes of parts.

Tomorrow is the day I figure out what's going to replace this engine and get it on order.

Another piece of welcome news: The box that vanished for a couple of weeks was scanned in Atlanta - so there's a chance it could be delivered tomorrow.